Wrestling (Sports), Politics and American History
What if tens of millions of Americans had the flu? What if 100,000 were hospitalized because of the flu? Surely it would be a national emergency, right? What if 60 million people in the US were infected and 300,000 were hospitalized. Surely that would be considered a pandemic. Surely schools, transportation and workplaces would be cancelled. The funny thing is, we did have that many infected and hospitalized ten winters ago. And it wasn’t nearly the armaggeddon we are facing right now. Did I mention that the government promised a “miracle” vaccine that, in the end, was shown to be far more dangerous than the swine flu itself because it caused permanent brain damage in thousands of people. That was H1N1. There was a stock market crash, concerns about health and yet we still went to work and school. And no one cancelled entire sports seasons and championships. We seem to have short term memory loss. So why the dramatic difference between then and now?
In even more recent history, I’m guessing that few people know that 80,000 people died of the flu 2 winters ago. There was no closing of everything. There was no national emergency. No one was freaking out on social media. Just the age-old adage, the flu is just a good reason to keep your immune system strong and practice good hygiene. These numbers are staggering compared to CoVID-19.
A decade before the Swine Flu epidemic, playing sports with the flu was lionized by the media and popular culture. NBA.com records it as one of their best: “Top NBA Finals moments: Jordan’s flu game in 1997 Finals”. You can find all sort of accolades and superlatives being giving to Michal Jordan. That praise was during what the CDC called a flu epidemic.
This is what The New York Times reported in December of that flu season:
“Cases of the flu have increased rapidly in the last few weeks, dominated by a dangerous strain that hits hardest at the elderly, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said today…”
From the Center for Disease Control, for that flu season:
“The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) reported by 122 U.S. cities exceeded the epidemic threshold for 10 consecutive weeks from December 8, 1996, through February 15, 1997, before returning to baseline.”
Michael Jordan took the court with ‘grit’. The idea that life had to be dramatically disrupted because of a virus that was not a serious threat to most, did not exist. It was a time when the ill fought through illness with sometimes thousands in the stands cheering. I personally know several wrestlers who wrestled through their championships with the flu.
Wrestlers, and all winter athletes for that matter, have competed with colds and flu since the beginning of time with little to no fanfare. It’s not easy, it takes extra grit. It never makes the NCAA wrestling greatest moments because wrestlers aren’t delicate like most of society. They have ‘grit’. They compete without ligaments, with sprains and tears. We don’t want a society of fragile human beings. That kind of society doesn’t last. It’s interesting that MMA is the only major sport to not cancel everything.
In a flu season where tens of thousands, mostly elderly, died, it was business as usual without government quarantines, media hysterics, and flu-related edicts from the Federal government. How is this different than the Corona/COVID-19? Will 60 million Americans be infected? Will 80,000 lose their lives? I don’t think the Corona virus will be in this ball park. But frankly, if it’s a glancing blow – will we hear anyone admit to their overreaction? The echo chamber will no doubt be silent.
This new canard that its necessary to fight the possibility of anyone getting the virus so that the high risk and elderly are protected is anti-scientific and bad for society. 95% of the people that get this virus will experience mild symptoms and have a much stronger immune system for it. We need a society with a strong overall immunity. COVID-19 does not appear to be life-threatening to healthy people under 60. Older people should take precautions, especially if they are over 70 and have chronic health problems as is typical during a flu season. Why should they need government to make them be cautious?
Additionally, are we saying that the 5% that are high risk are more important than the 95% that need to live their lives and develop immunity? Are we only supposed to have empathy for those who are high risk? What happens to the other 95% who avoided exposure the next time it comes around? “The Herd” will fare less well than those who were exposed. Historically we know coronavirus epidemics subside in late spring and could re-erupt in December. It will be back. And then what?
Objectively, having fewer flu deaths means less sorrow for society and yet reducing the vast majority’s opportunity for immunity is bad for society. It’s quite a dilemma. But it’s short sighted to think of only one side or the other – stage 1 thinking. And then what of the bankruptcies facing thousands if not millions of people because of the closures? Will it be worth it? What’s the real crisis here? The Corona Virus will bankrupt more people than it kills. Shutting everything down creates real shortages. Not just the need to restock overnight. The more people and business are locked down, the more supply chains gets broken,
Which one is the real global emergency?
Decreasing hysteria is also better for society. Have you seen the violence taking place at shopping centers? Stabbed over toilet paper?? Take the virtue signaling out of this. No one wants people to die but the fear mongering is over the top. Let’s have some connection to history and how these things have been handled successfully in the past. I don’t fear the virus as much as I do the panic and disruptions, especially for those that aren’t prepared.
I get it – once the thought leaders, politicians, academia and media start down this hysterical road organizations start to fear lawsuits. Only time will tell whether Corona/COVID-19 is a major killer or just another overhyped politicalized story. If it does result in the deaths of thousands of Americans, some judges and juries will say that companies were given all the proper warnings to cancel their events, that they should have known the risk of exposing their employees, and that their actions constitute negligence. What’s worse, a judge or jury could award punitive damages if they consider it “extremely reckless”. Even though there is absolutely no precedent for this. Common sense will lose more ground and society will become more fragile and more susceptible. The goal should be the long-term health of society.
If you weren’t tweeting to cancel everything 2 winters ago when 80,000 souls lost their battle with the flu…If you weren’t demanding that Obama start #flatteningthecurve during H1N1…If you weren’t denouncing Michael Jordan and the tens of thousands of wrestlers and other athletes that competed with the flu or other communicable diseases over the decades…please spare me your virtue signaling now. Odds are that it’s no different this time. Our immune system is like every other part of our body, it needs to be challenged to be strong. Recently the FDA approved the first treatment for peanut allergies. It works by exposing kids to tiny and escalating doses of peanuts. Immune systems get stronger through exposure. I want more people to live through illnesses, don’t you?
So what should you do? Build your immune system through exercise, nutrition, sunlight and a satisfying personal life. Stop eating sugar. Spend time with your spouse, kids and dog. Turn off the news and social media and lower your stress level. Stress runs down your immune system. Do you think that there will be a Corona baby boom in 9 months?
I’ll be training and working through this crisis. I/We must not stop living. Most of my state and county are on lock-down. It’s very hard to talk people out of panic.
I know I lost a lot of followers in the past by treading on ground like this. Don’t take offense, just try to understand history before telling me to go eff myself.
George Carlin sums it up:
Update #1 March 17
Let’s be very clear the Corona virsus isn’t killing people weak immune systems are the cause of death. Fear is contagious: Fear is more contagious than this virus and the media has really fed the fear. Less than 100 American have died. Japan hasn’t had much trouble 2 months after it make land fall. Media generated fear is political not scientific.
Corona Virus/COVID19 deaths worldwide have vastly been among the elderly and infirm.
If isolation is needed for the elderly and those with underlying health concerns to avoid exposure why not let them self-isolate? Instead of creating economic collapse for the younger and healthier?
Why wouldn’t we focus on insulating the most vulnerable, instead of infecting the 95% that aren’t in serious damage from the flu with economic destruction from trying to close businesses worldwide?
We are seeing a building of bitterness from young people about how will they no longer have jobs or the ability to live life and pay bills including the massive student loan (bubble) because of antediluvian government measures to combat a disease that in large part wouldn’t affect them.
Can the government quarantine people without proof of a real epidemic and imminent demise? Will the bed wetting hysterics in the media be punish for their part in the havoc that has been unleashed? They should have to wear a bright red sign around their necks (FL) flu liars.
Update #2 March 18
Total cases: 7,038
Total deaths: 97
0.14 Fatality Rate
This isn’t an epidemic. There are more that 329 Million people in America.
These number inculde people that had the virus when they died but didn’t die from the virus.
4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)
3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)
3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)
2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)
2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)
2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)
1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)
1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)
1.37% March 18 (97 of 7,038)
1.44% March 19 (150 of 10,442)
1.32% March 20 (201 of 15,219)
1.29% March 21 (348 of 26,863)
1.19% March 23 (400 of 33,404)
1.23% March 24 (544 of 44,183)
1.35% March 25 (737 of 54,453)
1.45% March 26 (994 of 68,440)
1.46% March 27 (1,246 of 85356)
1.70% March 31 (2,405 of140,904)
2.11% April 2 (4,513 of 213,144)
2.2% April 3 (5,443 of 239,279)
We are a nation of at least 329 million people and this virus has been floating around for at least 2 to 3 months. Scientific testing is a joke and doesn’t tell us much if anything. More people have died from the regular flu this winter. More people have died in car accidents since this panic started.
The Director General of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom, said in his February 28 briefing, “Most people will have mild disease and get better without needing any special care.” Several studies have found that about 80% of all the COVID-19 cases have relatively minor symptoms which end without severe illness and therefore remain unreported.
If the WHO estimate of 4351 confirmed cases amounted to 30% of the actual number infected outside of China at that time, for example, then the combined total of both unreported and confirmed cases would be 4351 divided by 0.30 or 14,503. In that case, the actual death rate would 67 divided by 14,503, or less than one half of one percent (0.46%).
Lets compare , the SARS coronavirus killed 774 people out of 8096 known cases in 2003, a death rate of 9.6% before it vanished the next year. Bird flu in 1997 was predicted to be a deadly pandemic, but it killed very few people before it disappeared.
February 22 U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report, “CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses… and 18,000 deaths from flu.” Dividing 18,000 by 32 million implies a low U.S. death rate of .0138% from the flu. Looking at the death rate alone is obviously not enough: We should look at the numbers of people infected, and the duration of the epidemic, which is why the flu killed so many more people than SARS. Still, it is important to avoid scaring people about the risk of death from COVID-19 by continuing to ignore the fact that the vast majority of cases “have mild disease and get better without needing any special care.”
18,000 deaths from the regular flu this season, no empathy for these poor souls?
More people have been shot in Philadelphia this year than have died in Carona/Covid-19.
More people have been murdered in Baltimore and Detriot since January 1st that have died from Carona/Covid-19. Where is the emergency for these people? The bedwetters just want to feel superior to the calm rational people.
March 19th Update
What “Flatten the curve” people don’t get
If the health care system becomes severely stressed, the majority of the extra deaths may not be due to Corona virus but to other common diseases and conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, trauma, bleeding, and the like that are not adequately treated. If the level of the epidemic does overwhelm the health system and extreme measures have only modest effectiveness, then flattening the curve may make things worse: Instead of being overwhelmed during a short, acute phase, the health system will remain overwhelmed for a more protracted period. That’s another reason we need data about the exact level of the epidemic activity.
The Corona/Covid-19 outbreak awakens primitive anxieties. Some of us suddenly think that our neighbors, friends and families are threats. There is a real risk of violence in the near future. Seriously. Something to keep in mind is that No quarantine has overcome any disease or epidemic.
March 20th Update
A Harvard professor says up 70% of the global population will be infected with coronavirus within the next year. This is actually a positive thing because most will experience very mild symptoms and will naturally develop antibodies. If I told you that 70% of the world just got vaccinated against coronavirus that would be considered a major achievement but if 70% were naturally immunized against coronavirus without a needle and syringe that would be considered a dire problem.
March 22 Update
The CDC like most of government doesn’t work on weekends so they don;t update numbers until Monday. This is an interesting article using official government number.
We have a low probability of catching COVID-19. The World Health Organization (“WHO”) released a study on how China responded to COVID-19. Currently, this study is one of the most exhaustive pieces published on how the virus spreads.
March 23 Update
The Italian version of the CDC says that just under 50% of those who had “died from the coronavirus” had at least three pre-existing diseases such as cancer, heart disease, lung disease, etc. The average age of such Italian disease victims is 80.5. Around 25% had at least two such diseases. Nevertheless, they are claiming that they died from coronavirus alone. 0.8% of Italians who died from the coronavirus had no pre-existing serious diseases. They are nearly all smokers, with pre-existing conditions in a terribly designed single payer health care system. All it took was 1,000 patients to overwhelm them.
The total number of deaths in the United States this year blamed on the coronavirus reached 348 on Saturday night. This number — 348 — is finally higher than the confirmed flu deaths just last week in the United States. There were 347 confirmed flu deaths in the United States last week. The CDC estimates the flu deaths this season in the United States is 23,000.
500 people in America have lost their lives after roughly 2 months of the Corona/COVID-19 pandemic. More people have died from the regular flu during the same time period. I get daily nastygrams for trying to inject evidence and reason without buying into the panic. If you pinned most of these bedwetters down, their hysteria is based on indefensible statements and data points with a little mental gymnastics mixed in. They’re just repeating what they are told by their movement leaders. Add some fear mongering to sway those with doubts. They aren’t thinking for themselves. They’ve been brainwashed.
Brainwashing does not turn people into hypnotized zombies who would be ready to kill a presidential candidate upon command. It transforms them into the sort of people who would be willing to kill someone’s character and/or livelihood for political reasons. To destroy what’s left of a barely functioning society. Brainwashing happens every day from the culture makers in our society. It doesn’t have to mean a complete transformation of identity, just an inability to believe something different than their controllers want. At its simplest level, it means compelling someone to believe something that just isn’t true. We aren’t in the midst of a pandemic but the majority of Americas hold this belief as true.
To successfully brainwash someone, you have to control their environment, force a crisis on them, and then tap into core emotions, fear, love, guilt, hate, shame, and guide them through the crisis by accepting and internalizing a new belief. A lie rooted in emotional desire is too powerful for the truth to undo.
Cults, totalitarian movements and abusive relationships maintain ‘crisis’ emotions, shutting down the average persons higher reasoning ability, creating a permanent state of stress by triggering fight-or-flight responses.This leads to Stockholm Syndrome, where the captive tries to control their fate through total emotional identification with their captor, pack behavior, loss of identity and will end eventually in suicide or death. It is very hard to wake people from this state. Being unemployed or going out of business wakes some of them up. Don’t give in to the hypnosis and group think. Go out and live your life but remember the people that want to control everything won’t let this crisis go to waste. More Americans lives will be destroyed by the government’s approach to Corona/COVID-19 than the virus.
Lastly when members of the mob won’t leave me alone I ask them a simple thing – to put their money where their mouth is. I’ll bet that more people will die from the seasonal flu than Corona/COVID-19. So far no one has taken this bet, not even a couple of people in the healthcare field. Okay, my mother bet me a penny. Easy money.
As more real data comes in the claims made by Trump’s medical adviser Tony Fauci that COVID-19 is 10 times more deadly than the flu, looks absurd. It’s not just Fauci’s claims all the talking heads and their medical hacks had crazy projections and the CDC data just proves them wrong. So why listen to them at all?
Twitter mob complains that it’s about infection not death rates. The WHO says almost 82,00 cases in a country of 1.3 billion. You do the math and see what the infection rate is. Very low
Most Americans have been exposed
Measuring severity by fatality rate rather than total cases is the most useful indicator. 95% of infected have no symptoms and won’t be tested. Tests are more likely to be performed on people who seek medical care than on people who have only minor symptoms, or none at all. Just like murder rates tell you more about how dangerous a society might be than speeding tickets. Total deaths from a disease tell you more about how dangerous it is than total cases.
Bed wetting Hysteric Dr Retracts Statments
Neil Ferguson, the Vice-Dean of Medicine at Imperial College, London,yesterday told the UK’s parliamentary select committee on science and technology that he now expects increases in National Health Service capacity and ongoing restrictions to people’s movements make him “reasonably confident” the health service can cope when the predicted peak of the epidemic arrives in two or three weeks. UK deaths from the disease are now unlikely to exceed 20,000, he said, and could be much lower.
Ferguson just 5 days ago said the virus could lead to the deaths of 250,000 people in the UK and up to 1.2 million in the US.
At the time of his nutty forecast of millions dead the Financial Times wrote:
Ferguson should be punished for his fear mongering and locked down for the duration. He should be forced to pay reparations.
The nutjob medical doctor, Neil Ferguson, who scared the world by claiming a million Americans would die from COVID-19 and 250,000 in England, only to pull that forecast, now tells us that up to two thirds of coronavirus victims who have died may have died this year anyway from other complications.
Plus no sympathy from the virtue signalers for the increase suicides
The 2008 Great Recession resulted in more than 10,000 suicides. If the economy is “closed for business” much longer, that number could be dwarfed by the number of people who can no longer survive without a livelihood.
At present in the US, there are roughly 117,000 suicide attempts per month, if we assume the current pressures are in line with 1929 (they are probably worse), we could see monthly suicide attempts during the lockdown increase by 58,500 to 175,500.
We’re living 12 Monkeys
Feds got 6 Trillion to spend on policies wanted preflu. So the useful idiots try to save scientific face. Dr Niel Ferguson Retracts His Forecast of Over 1 Million Americans Dead #COVID19 is.gd/9VUqnB Dr. Fauci: #Coronavirus like very bad flu
Did I say money to be made? Globalist vaccine advocate Bill Gates announced Sunday that society will not return to normal unless the masses get inoculated with the upcoming COVID-19 vaccine, and until that happens, they will keep society and public events shut down.“It is fair to say things won’t go back to truly normal until we have a vaccine that we’ve gotten out to basically the entire world,” Gates said.
If noone is sick lets us dummies
I can’t post on this anymore. Some people are what Martin Luther King summed up so well:
“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
I had a neighbor tell me today this COVID-19 flu has killed more Americans than another flu since the Spanish flu. His wife is an executive at one of the biggest hospitals in the country. I don’t know what is worse. That he is spouting off totally nonfactual medical statements. That he’s relying on his “medical” wife or the media for information. Please, stop listening to the hysterical media. They have their own agenda here. It’s eyeballs. Carlin nails this cycle pretty well here and it was some time ago. People are freely giving up their liberties and want to shout down those who prioritize it. Make up your own mind.